A White Couple Pulls a Gun on a Black Family at Local Chipotle – Both Lawyers Make Their Case!
Two opposing attorneys give their clients' accounts of a viral Chipotle parking-lot confrontation in which a couple allegedly pulled guns on a mother and her daughters after a bumping incident escalated.
About This Episode
Chris Quinn and Terry Johnson represent the Hill and Wuestenberg families who are on opposing sides of a prominent felonious assault case. Jillian and Eric Wuestenberg, are a white couple who allegedly pulled guns on the Hills, a black family, in the parking lot of a Chipotle. A video of the incident, filmed by one of the Hill daughters, went viral soon after.
On this episode of Open Mike, Chris and Terry tell Mike their respective sides of the story. Chris claims this incident is proof of racial bias in America while Terry believes the Wuestenbergs were acting in self-defense. Tune in to hear both sides of the argument in this special two-part episode.
Show Notes
- Mike Introduces Hill vs Wuestenberg case where a gun was pulled in a Chipotle parking lot
- Chris Quinn is the Hill family’s lawyer
- What happened to your clients, the Hill family?
- Watch the video of the altercation here
- Did both of the Wuestenbergs have guns?
- In an incident between an adult and a fifteen-year-old, the adult should be responsible
- What did the fifteen-year-old say?
- Ms. Hill never threatened violence
- Being rude doesn’t give someone the right to threaten someone with a gun
- Did the Wuestenbergs have licenses to carry
- What is Felonious Assault?
- When is the first court date?
- The current crisis of unarmed Black people having guns pulled on them
- The Wuestenberg’s attorney’s response to accusations of racism
- The Wuestenbergs felt pulling a gun on an unarmed mother and daughter was justified
- Have your clients considered filing a civil suit as well?
- If you could ask the Wuestenbergs one question, what would it be?
- Do you have any parting thoughts on this?
- Thank you for watching Chris Quinn’s interview on Open Mike, stay tuned for an interview with the Wuestenberg’s attorney
- Introducing the Wuestenberg’s attorney, Terry Johnson
- What is your day to day law practice like?
- Check out Terry’s website here
- If the Wuestenbergs had been members of Fire Arms Legal, what would happen?
- Is there more to this story that isn’t in the video?
- The Wuestenbergs claim that there was no bumping inside Chipotle
- Did the police show up at the scene?
- When can someone pull a gun on someone?
- How could the Hills have caused serious bodily harm?
- What were the charges against your clients?
- Terry explains his quotes about how Eric and Jillian Hill’s lives have changed
- If the Hills had been white, would your client have pulled a gun?
- How long ago was the incident?
- No one is considering why the Hills made the bump a problem in the first place or filmed it
- How would you tell your firearm student to behave in Ms. Hill’s situation?
- Watch Mike’s interviews with Karen McDonald and Jessica Cooper
- Terry believes that the current political climate has affected this case
- Shootings of unarmed Black people in America
- Thank you for watching this episode of the Open Mike podcast!
FAQs
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What happened between the Hill family and the Wuestenbergs at the Chipotle?
According to attorney Chris Quinn, as Ms. Hill’s 15-year-old daughter was leaving the restaurant, Ms. Wuestenberg bumped into her and words were exchanged, and Ms. Hill came over to address it. Mr. Wuestenberg escorted his wife to their van, and as they left, the van backed up and almost hit Ms. Hill, who hit the back window with her hand. Quinn says the car then stopped and the couple jumped out brandishing firearms.
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What charges were filed against Eric and Jillian Wuestenberg?
Both were charged with felonious assault. Chris Quinn noted there was no felony firearm charge, which he said is usually added when a gun is involved in an assault or other felony.
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Why does Terry Johnson believe Jillian Wuestenberg was justified in drawing her gun?
Terry Johnson says that after the van stopped and Eric got out to check that no one was hurt, Jillian, concerned for her husband, got out too, and Ms. Hill and one of her daughters rushed her from both sides. He says someone closed the van door behind her, she saw at least five people, with reports of up to ten, and she pulled her firearm as a tool of last resort because she was in imminent fear of death or great bodily harm.
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Did the Wuestenbergs lose their jobs after the incident?
Yes, according to Terry Johnson. He says Eric was terminated by Oakland University, which he believes feared an outcry over employing someone called a racist, and that Jillian was fired from Hallmark by text message. He argued they lost their jobs without due process after someone called them racist.
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When was the preliminary exam scheduled in the Wuestenberg case?
Terry Johnson said the probable cause conference was set for July 21 via Zoom, with the preliminary exam scheduled for July 29.
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